Jon: And on a deeper level. Tim: Yeah, we were in Matthew 18. She had seen many pennies before! Tim: I think, Zack, you're reflecting on Paul's desire is to be crystal clear with people. The soils represent the variety of people He's addressing. But apparently Jesus thought the cost was worth it, because that’s how he talked much of the time. And He calls the people that they're going to in Israel, He calls them the lost. - The stories are filled with symbolism. Which means that both what parables and Luke's narrative have in common is that they are stories crafted to make a point. "And if they receive you," he says to the disciples, "they receive me." 2 (1991), 225–246. What better thing to think about than the parables of the sage Master Jesus of Nazareth? And what you're saying, Tim is that's missing the point, it's jumping the gun. And Jesus replied, 'foxes have dens, birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.' I firmly believe the parables have meaning that is applicable to us today. Tim: That was our first perspective shift was whatever we think these parables mean for us, at least in my humble opinion, I think we should try to anchor them as much as we can in what Jesus meant when He told them to His audience. The second one is Jesus saying to somebody, " Follow me." So that's interesting. And opposite, the poor man is in a place of paradise. This is a rough ride in Jesus. To a reader, some of these parables might not make much sense in a literal modern-day context, I admit to having been confused when reading some of them. It was clearly effective. Why the difference? The thrust of the poem and how it ends is how people are supposed to respond to him in this moment—His listeners. Tim: I don't know. There's a scholar Richard Bauckham who wrote an important essay on this parable in the 80s. Paul sees himself called to the nations, where cryptic communication would be less effective among a diverse and non-Israelite audience. But we cannot overlook or ignore the fact that it was first a piece of communication given to 1st century Jews by a 1st century to. I mean, not impossible, but just it doesn't have that kind of feel to it. Tim: I will need to do some homework on it. And so I really appreciate this question. But it was then that they were told they would need, all of the boy’s blood. In other words, Jesus doesn't seem to be talking about like, "Here's some people I know." But the significance of Jesus' parable for us I think would be, as we go about living as followers of Jesus and sharing the good news about Him, that He's the risen king of the world, there's going to be a variety of responses. Do you see that? You can purchase this DVD on the Compass Classroom website, but I would go ahead and buy the whole set. Throughout dinner, the entire scene nagged at her. Jesus was the greatest teacher of all time. My name's Anthony. I think the result is bad theology, or at least we're drawing now pretty significant theological conclusions about predestination and salvation based on what I think is a misunderstanding of what Jesus was trying to communicate. A smile crept across the man's face as he reached into his pocket for the penny and held it out for her to see. Tim: Yeah, sure. Modern Parables has done something far too rare in the current Christian climate – it … Maybe even some human might do him harm. Lauren, you're indicating that every answer is somewhat cryptic, that He answers. Tim: You're making an important observation. My question is about Matthew 18:12-14. And let's go for it, shall we? Some parables are nearly entirely prophetic. But he sees himself on commission to go out to the marketplace, to go out to the forums of the Greco Roman world, the Greek and Roman world. NIV, the ESV, and the NAS, all say Hades. It's actually the poor man who's in the place of God's love and care, which is called Abraham's bosom, whereas the rich man is in the grave. And it can be used as the physical grave or it can be used to talk about the realm of the dead, which in the Hebrew Bible, this kind of shadowy nonexistent existence of the dead who are semi-conscious. Tim: Matthew 18:5, "Whoever receives one of these children in my name receives me. Tim: Totally, yeah. I mean, really, a lot of has to do with the source material that they're using or writing or re-employing as they arrange these conversations. That's interesting. Who seems not to notice, the things that you do. What need did this man have for a single penny? And I think the reason why people have attached so much importance to this question is because it has to do with the afterlife. However, Luke 16:19-31 simply says “The Rich Man and Lazarus.” So is this actually a parable, or is Jesus giving us some insight into what life after death is going to be like? I just want to talk about that for the next 45 minutes. I forget the name of the characters. "Now there was a certain rich man." Jon: I mean, this gets to something that is present throughout the whole Bible, which is a high level of design, and how stories are told, which, to me, like a modern western thinker would make me initially go, "Oh, they're making it up.". Tim: That's a really perceptive question, Lauren? Several years ago, a friend of mine and her husband were invited to spend the weekend at the husband's employer's home. And there was a certain man. Jon, it seems like Isaiah is zeroing in on the fact that Jesus ends this little parable about the sheep, and He makes the sheep and the parable equivalent with one of these little ones. Tim: Yes, totally. Yeah, totally. And both can be important guides for what it means to communicate the good news about Jesus in our setting. Tim: Not a parable. Jon: I will say though it does preacher really well to turn it into a message of, strictly, are you saved or not, how you respond to the gospel. Jon: Yeah, man. That first … Afterwards, leave the church if you desire.'. Jesus Himself is depicted as spreading the good news about the kingdom. Jon: Are you saying here at the beginning of Matthew 18, He's creating a parable, but instead of just a story about children, He actually pulls a child in and says, "Here's like an object lesson for you right in front of you, this kid." Because they both share that. The Good Shepherd is on a mission to get as many lost sheep and little ones as he can back into the fold. So what is a parable? 1hr 14m, –  Jon: And so first, uncover that, and then you can begin to figure out what it then means for me now. Tim and Jon read this passage from Luke 9. Whereas Jesus is pretty clever, rhetorically sophisticated, often cryptic, and trying to hide as much He is reveal. It's in an Egyptian form. Jon: Well, I mean, it's told in the narrative of Jesus' life. Those responses have to do with factors way beyond our control. RELATED: Woman Lives Out A Parable At The Airport. And that doesn't mean that these stories are fictional. What do you think? 18? Tim shares that Jesus and Paul occupy different moments in the biblical story. These stories of grace reveal many of the mysteries central to God’s character, and understanding the ancient … And I don't think that Jesus is trying to give us that information here. Whenever the merchant faced some problems, he always turned to his second wife and she would always help him out and tide him through difficult times. The merchant also loved the third wife very much. It was our first perspective shift on the parables. Modern Parables from Compass Cinema is billed as a “Bible study for people who like movies.” The 12-part series features short films that recast six of Jesus’ parables in a modern context. The Good Samaritan Took a Chance and Got Involved. So if that's true for the parables, is that true also for all the teachings of Jesus? It is a story that is easy to understand that has a much more important meaning. I just can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want the original context to illuminate what it could mean the significance that it could have for you. And then specifically, His audience is to a whole layer of Israel...one layer of His audience is in Israel that already thinks it's in a great covenant relationship with God and things are going just fine, thank you. RELATED: Christmas Act Of Kindness Opens Heart. This is Doreen from Orlando, Florida, and I have a question regarding Luke 16:19-31. “Wow,” I said, “that’s a cool name; I wish my name was Denny, but my name is Steve.”, “Steve, like Stevarino?” he asked. Fables and parables are brief, invented narratives that shed light on aspects of human experience and behavior. What that parable is doing is giving a commentary on what Jesus is doing in Israel, announcing the kingdom of God in the very moment that He's giving the parable. But we shouldn't be surprised that many people are not going to be sold on Jesus. That's why you're being told this in the first place. But it's a good example about how there are key phrases that Jesus will use. And that's how I was taught it growing up. And what Abraham says is, "Oh, no, they have the Torah and the Prophets. Tim shares that the parable of the four soils, in its original context, is providing commentary on what Jesus is doing at that moment in proclaiming the Kingdom. This is actually a long-standing question in the history of interpretation about this story that Jesus told about the rich man and Lazarus. My question is found in Matthew 18:12-14. The boy is naturally terrified. Just like in a parable, right, it's the point that matters. Luke 9:57-62 And Jesus said to him, 'Let the dead bury their own dead. What’s your say on this? It's a shortened form of the Hebrew name Eleazar, which means "God is help." Jesus didn't make up this vocabulary. The whole team is really excited right now, and we feel just really honored and privileged to be able to keep doing this work. Who else felt so inspired by these stories? He took great care of her and gave her nothing but the best. I guess I've just always heard this verse, this parable in context of salvation and bringing home that lost person. But then second, we're just like so ripe to misunderstand Him, because we're not asking what He was meaning. So I think they just represent two different people in two different contexts. But as they were cleaning out his things they found this poem, and their hearts sunk. And there, the tables are turned. So He's using Hebrew Bible imagery, He's describing His own current moment, and the parable invites, you know, all kinds of reflection and pondering. And so, in that setting, cryptic, indirect communication was the strategy that He chose. ‘There is no life after delivery. Every day a homeless man named Howard stood outside of a gas station convenience store. ... to understand the parables in their original Sitz im Leben shall we be able to free ourselves from the chains of modern-day fads or trends, whether they be liberalism's general moral truth or existentialism's language event. Lamp on a stand. So I don't think we should see Jesus trying to give us a video tour of the afterlife, to put it lightly. He stopped suddenly, looking down on the pavement for a long, silent moment. It’s the poor man who is remembered by his name, but the rich man’s name is forgotten. A lot of times I hear people take that teaching and apply it directly to us, and it doesn't feel like it goes through a filter. He knew what He was doing. This week, we get to continue to just think about the parables. It begins exactly like many of Jesus' parables. Click here to see how that question changed the woman’s heart. Any thoughts or reflections on that. Speakers in the audio file: Any attitude, activity or possession must be set aside in the interests of the kingdom. Tim: As I'm hearing you reflect on that, there are two layers to maybe a response to your questions, Zack. But it's a well-known trope. So, "Oh, He taught about children, and so He'll have parables that have children in them.". And she's challenging all…, During a Tennessee house fire, a 7-year-old brother saves his sister when no one else could get to her. So Jon, what's the difference between this story that Luke's telling us about Jesus and a parable that Jesus would tell that has a one, two, three...? He tells the second guy, "Let the dead bury their own. To hear the second baby’s powerful response click here. Almost every commentator that I find and that I look to, argues that it is a parable for a number of reasons. This kid is still learning the alphabet. Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. Tim: It has to do with the progress of thought in the speech in Matthew 18. Jon: It's such a powerful image of what it means. Here, they're fully conscious and so on. I mean, to be honest, it's not super different than when we're in the recording room together because I'm looking at you. What are your thoughts on this? He references a sermon he gave on this parable, which is linked in the show notes. That the more he learns about the Bible, the more it all feels like a parable. Click here to hear how this young boy’s words reminded his father of what wealth really is. His parents assumed the doctors would only need some of his blood. So Luke has put together three exchanges. Every other feature of this narrative and the majority of scholars in the history of interpretation, and I did a quick scan through all of my commentaries, and I can't find anybody who thinks it's not a parable or flip it over. Gospel authors intentionally structure content to make a persuasive point. "Whoever receives y'all..." No, that would be all y'all? They have the TaNaK. The first lesson today really gives us a very good context in which to reflect on our Gospel reading today and the letter from Paul to the Colossians. These stories call forth total faith leading to a total commitment of oneself to God. To Israel. Once we anchor the parable in its original context, the significance comes as we apply that meaning to ourselves. It is remarkably successful. Oh, yeah, he's in... Tim: Hades. That would be weird. That's not what separates them is different types of literature. And then the whole point of this parable is that after they both die, the camera, so to speak, of the storyteller follows them through their descent into the underworld—the world of the dead. And that man replied, 'Lord, first let me go and bury my father.' ', The lady said ‘Ah! Because he's named Lazarus, which was a really common name in Jesus' day. Even if an Israelite gives you a cup of cold water, like shows an act of kindness to one of the disciples of Jesus who's out there...And notice He calls His disciples "the little ones." Tim: "He who receives all y'all receives me. Here are some other articles in this series that we hope you’ll enjoy! When do we get to talk about that? Let's start with a question from Zack who lives in Washington. Buy the DVD. Thanks for everything that you guys do. My hunch is that in asking the question, Anthony, you probably already know kind of the direction we're going to go, which I agree with you. And Jesus sees Himself as the incarnation of the message of the Prophet, and people are not listening. During Jesus' time on earth, He loved using profound parables to teach important lessons. And that that should be the first key step. It's important for us to really think wisely and strategically about all the decisions that we're making right now. In Matthew 10 here, Jesus goes out of His way to describe His disciples as little ones. It's to bring someone who is of the lowest social rank. So you're saying your English Bible doesn't have that parable heading over this section of Luke 16. To view the reconstructed text of the Hidden Treasure and Priceless Pearl parables click on the link below: Download (PDF, 124KB) I'm glad you raised it, Isaiah because it's a good example of the perspective shift we're trying to invite people into with these conversations and with the video. Zack: Hello, Tim and Jon, this is Zach Sogan [SP] from Spokane, Washington. In Matthew, Jesus tells a lot of stories about children. Then look in chapter 10, verse 5, it says, "These 12 Jesus sent out after instructing them don't go out to the nations, don't go out to the Samaritans. But the umbilical cord is so short. Especially if you think one of the main purposes of the Bible is to give you information that you know so you can go to the right place in the afterlife, then you can see why people try and answer your question, Doreen, all of a sudden, it raises an importance, right? So yeah, it's a perceptive observation. Wild beasts must surely be all around him. Tim: The actual point of how the parable concludes is with the rich man saying to Abraham, "Hey, go have Lazarus go back. He loved the fourth wife the most, adorning her with rich robes and treating her to delicacies. Some of the parables combine the above features. When we write scripts, it's all about is it clear enough? He just was at a different moment in the biblical story too. The Sermon on the Mount has a timeless quality to it, which is why it's moved listeners all over the world a couple of thousand years now. One asked the other: ‘Do you believe in life after delivery?' Tim: I mean, we're just grateful that we can create stuff that people can enjoy no matter where they are, even if they're stuck in their home, or apartment. Remember, like the lost coin, the lost sheep, the lost son. ', ‘Well, I don’t know,' said the second, ‘but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.' A lot of times I hear people take that teaching and apply it directly to us, and it doesn't feel like it goes through our filter. Jon's feeling really resonated with me. Tim shares that the thrust of this parable is about how the listener responds to Jesus and his message. You go and proclaim the kingdom of God." But all the same, I'm in my basement, you're in your office at your house. They become an incarnation of the values of the kingdom. Jesus is explaining why some people reject Him, some people are not sure, some people love Him. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore. But it seems like biblical authors just are constantly doing that and are not ashamed of it— of like supercharging all these design patterns and details and stories in order to make them well crafted. Families everywhere went to their local hospitals to get tested hoping for a cure. “Yes,” I answered.”How old are you Denny?”. So my question is, is this actually a parable or is Jesus giving us some sort of insight into what life after death is going to be like? Hi I’m Support Bot! In the context of the parable of the lost sheep, Jesus connects the sheep to “little children.” Tim shares that this is a thread found throughout the Gospel according to Matthew, and the little children refers to Jesus’ followers. It's okay. That's another reason why this is such a visceral story is it's about someone in the bad place trying to figure things out. We're actually pushing it up, and we'll have a little conversation about it. Tim: Yeah, totally. My question is about you discuss knowing the parables or the context around the parables before we take the imperative and apply it to our own lives. That was until suddenly people were dying just days after finding out they were infected. So he's talking about now how when you go out into Israel, you're going to represent the choice of the kingdom before them. And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore. It's what he told us. Jon: Washington State. However, the merchant did not love the first wife and although she loved him deeply, he hardly took notice of her. So the context there is children on the brain. “It was great, Dad,” the son replied. He's the herald of the risen Jesus and His kingdom. The wind blew the grass and earth, and shook his stump, but he sat stoically, never removing the blindfold. To hear what each wife said and to hear the lesson we all need to remember, click here. The result was Modern Parables. It's one of the main teaching blocks in Matthew, and it's about the upside-down value ethic of the kingdom of God as it's applied to relationships and social rank. So a huge part of Matthew's message is in chapters 4 through 9. And remember, help in Hebrew means deliverance. 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