Watched. I'm not okay with it. Yeah he wouldn't really have any Tags and that would be annoying. Why Kylo vs Luke's hologram makes sense. Many people think that Luke should had fight Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi rather than staying in the island and just making a hologram. Close. Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo eventually sacrificed herself and her cruiser to allow the remainin… Member. And I think he should have the Resistance tag, or at least indirect synergy with them. Starts on cooldown. (CD: 3), Spark of Hope (Special): Gain taunt for two turns. So my presumption at this point is that his astral projection trick was so powerful that it caused him to become one with the force. Archived. Dec 21, 2020 #207 BossAttack said: Yeah, this is … Reduce the cooldown of "See You Around, Kid" by one for each stunned enemy. Distraction (Basic): Stun target enemy for one turn, remove all buffs from that enemy, and increase their cooldowns by one. Nah. This chance is doubled for First Order enemies. What would his zeta(s) look like? (CD: 4), See You Around, Kid (Special): Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) flees from the battle, granting allies 100% turn meter, foresight, and defense up for two turns. QuiWanKenJin Jedi Master. Force projection required extreme concentration and focus. Psych. After returning from his Force projection, Luke spent his final moments watching the sunset on Ahch-To and was filled with a sense of peace and … Luke Skywalker reaching for his lightsaber on Hoth. Star Wars: Though Luke died after the force projection, he is set to reappear in Episode 9 (Image: Lucasfilm) Though The Last Jedi was divisive, Star Wars fans will turn out in droves for Episode 9. It's pretty cool, but I think the See You around Kid needs more to it. Furthermore, we saw Yoda hit Luke on the head with a stick and the Kylo Ren wipe off rain water from Ahch-To. Only this time he knows he is not the person to redeem Ben, but has hope the Rey is. When Luke appears during the attack, Ren orders his men to fire on him, to no effect; Luke remains standing, revealing that he is only present as a Force projection, serving as a distraction to allow the Resistance to escape from the First Order. It's one of the biggest twists in the movie, but Johnson laid out a number of clues that hint Luke never actually left Ahch-To to go to Crait before the big reveal. Between that and Leia Organa flying through space, it seemed like Lucasfilm was just making up new rules for the Force. It means he had transcended death and through it able to aid Luke on his journey, free from all restrictions. Commandant Brendol Hux was his father, although Brendol's wife, Maratelle Hux was not his mother, making Armitage the bastard son of Brendol—a consequence of an extramarital affair between his father and a kitchen woman. It should reset cooldowns and not just reduce. Luke never left Ahch-To. Reduce the cooldown of "See You Around, Kid" by one for each stunned enemy. Return of the Jedi (Special): Expose all enemies with a 50% chance to stun them for one turn. MrElculver2424, dolphin, Revanfan1 and 3 others like this. I'd add that he stuns the targeted enemy, and it can't be resisted. Posted by. Luke02 said: ↑ Chewie's flea powder said: ↑ I think he did more than that based on what I saw and heard. Luke uses a Force Push to completely destroy the hut that he sees Kylo and Rey connecting in - Which leads to Kylo and Rey using Force Projection to the point where they can actually see and touch each other, however Snoke was enabling them. I think that encounter could have been an actual fight if Luke wanted, but that is exactly what Kylo was expecting: He was expecting that Luke wanted him dead. Cookies help us deliver our Services. He gave her Han's dice which, while a projection also, were held in her hands. Once the transfer was complete, Boolio quickly ha… It is a curated space to talk about additions to canon in a larger perspective—incorporating analysis of the story being told and the real life factors around it in order to best theorize what comes next. If Rey (Jedi Training) is present at the start of the encounter, Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) gains +100% tenacity. Increase cooldown of "See You Around, Kid" by two. Grant foresight to all other allies. So the idea of this kit would be right in line with the role Luke Skywalker plays in The Last Jedi as a force projection: he doesn't deal actual physical damage (in that way making his kit similar to Hermit Yoda), but his role is to slow down and distract the enemy while providing invaluable assistance to the Resistance. So Luke will, essentially, always be in the battle and cannot be killed. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the starwarsspeculation community, Continue browsing in r/starwarsspeculation. Watch the Star Wars explained video on it. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Very creative. “Luke’s Force Ghost reveals to Rey that his father had learned many powers in the netherworld - including the Doppelgänger Technique, also known as Force Projection. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Thats why I think the power was less "projection" and more like "bi-location." After hurling down one of end of a cable for Finn to plug into R2-D2, Boolio admitted he did not know who the traitor within the First Order was but encouraged them to deliver the data to Organa. Would his one projection at the end of TLJ count for him being in the resistance? During the climax of the movie, Luke, or at least Luke's Force projection of himself, fights Kylo Ren. Force Projection (Special): Final text: This ability can only be used when Luke is in his last turn of Exile and there is … Luke using Force projection really was an epic use of Force powers and a wonderful addition to Force powers. Reduce the cooldown of "See You Around, Kid" by one for each stunned enemy. Kylo uses the force to activate Anakin's lightsaber, killing Snoke. 5:26. It needs to expose all enemies and have unavoidable TM reduction to all enemies.His unique should also have a dodge multiplier so the more resistance allys and the more he dodges the harder he is to actually hit, or perhaps he reduces the accuracy of the opposing team by 50% and double that for FO. Disney/Lucasfilm The idea that Luke was simply a projection for a good chunk of the end of the film only to die right afterward upset a lot of fans. I doubt it will ever happen and this would make the Resistance even stronger (something that I'm not sure CG wants to do for the game's balance), but it would be very interesting, IMO. The player must decide whether these buffs are worth using this ability or whether using Luke's taunt will prove more useful. It's what ultimately killed him. PadawanGussin, Dec 20, 2017 #24. Oct 25, 2017 5,887. I've been thinking about what Luke's kit would be from the Battle of Crait (I love Luke's appearance there), and thought I'd share some of the thoughts bouncing around in my head. Registered: Oct 14, 2005. Reduce all ally cooldowns by one and heal all allies for 75% of their max health. But the idealization wasn't his, but the peoples/the audience, how they wanted Luke to be and they just have more vivid memories of ChildKiller 9000 over DadForgiver. This isn’t the Luke we knew. He gave her Han's dice which, while a projection also, were held in her hands. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. There are two interesting things about this kit that make it very unique (besides for his not doing physical damage), and it's really wrapped into one thing: Luke Skywalker essentially cannot be killed unless the player wants him to. Since Star Wars: The Last Jedi came out, there have been some questions as to whether the Force projection ability used by Rey, Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker is actually canon. However, the player can kill Luke by using his third special, which starts on cooldown. 1. But he chose something better. He made mistakes along the way, but Luke's heart was always in the right place. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) - He has 100% dodge chance because...he's literally just a projection. I don't believe you. JonnyDBrit God and Anime. Luke "touched" Leia and kissed her. The Force can literally influence minds or instill Hope into the entire galaxy to turn against us." Armitage Hux was born on the planet Arkanis around the time of the Battle of Yavin, approximately 0 ABY, during the reign of the Galactic Empire. Basically it's a new EU take on a old Legends ability. This attack cannot be evaded. About Powerful Allies: Leia gives resiliation to his brother, they should have a force bond; it would help Luke be zen and focus so i would rather put tenacity bonus there While Rey being a jedi, could help Luke using the Force like a kamehameha Master/Padawan, 100% potency there. This attack cannot be evaded. Press J to jump to the feed. The Jedi poured their Living Force presence into the Cosmic Force, allowing them to create illusory copies of themselves incredible distances away. The act of projecting himself there was clearly very strenuous. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. VADER EPISODE 1: … 1 year ago. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. While the Resistance was searching the galaxy for a new base of operations, General Armitage Hux tracked the Resistance fleet through hyperspace and gave chase through space. Just like Obi-Wan, Vader, and Yoda. I'm also not okay with your toxic approach to mental health. u/ludwigritcher752. Hermit Luke on the other hand would be a different build, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the SWGalaxyOfHeroes community. When asked how he could be repaid, Boolio told them to "win the war." For them, this scene was underwhelming and just showed how coward Luke in The Last Jedi is. The Dark Side Version of Luke’s Force Projection Ability in The Last Jedi - Force Phantom Explained - Duration: 5:26. because it would be a good bait and switch moment, I think the reason Luke is presented as a force projection is simply so Johnson doesn't have to have Luke be killed by Kylo's/Ben's hand. Following the Resistance's major victory in destroying Starkiller Base, the Resistance abandoned their base on D'Qar after the First Order invaded the Ileenium system. Using this power was extremely taxing; Kylo Ren noted that Rey, whose power in the Force rivaled his own immense powers as a Skywalker, would die just by trying. He can stun enemies (thus slowing them down from being able to attack), he can taunt (thus taking the focus away from allies), and he can give buffs/health (thus setting allies up very well for the rest of the encounter). Even as a child, Armitage harbored notions of grandeur… Luke changed his father, a ruthless and tyrannical Sith Lord and made his father be the very one who sacrificed himself to become the true Chosen One and kill the Emperor and bring balance to the Force. And i definately would have done several different things, Luke is a rebel and not part of the resistance. Star Wars Reading Club 18,127 views. When Obi-Wan says he'll become more "powerful" after death, he wasn't saying he's become more powerful, physically. It mentioned that unlike the EU power, Luke could actually, tangibly be there. Luke's Force projection was able to create physical dice and kiss Leia on the head. Your idea sounds cool, but I'd rather have a "Grandmaster Luke" with Projection as an ability or unique. Although Luke Skywalkermaintained a projection for several minutes, giving all of himself to the Force to allow him to physically interact with h… Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes is a mobile game by EA Capital Games where players collect, level and battle with heroes and villains from the Star Wars universe. Instead, Luke remained on Ahch-To and Force projected an illusion of himself to the salt planet. Kind of like Force Arena. Rey literally lifts up rocks so they can get out. Powerful Allies (Unique): If General Leia Organa is present at the start of the encounter, Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) gains +100% potency. By now, the image of Leia floating through space is well-known, as the General channeled her Force abilities in a last-ditch effort to stay alive. So, Luke Skywalker realizes in the course of his tinkering that, due to the kyber crystal, it requires the use of the Force to carefully move it into position. This causes Luke to flee the battle, but in doing so he grants aid to his allies (think Old Ben's buffs after dying, only this time triggered by the player). Luke Skywalker (Force Projection): Light Side, Resistance, Jedi, Support. He then begins trying, trying to move a vegetable (40): Obi-Wan had never addressed telekinesis with me. Luke Skywalker (Force Projection): Light Side, Resistance, Jedi, Support. Force Projection (Unique): As long as one Resistance ally remains alive, Luke Skywalker (Force Projection)'s health cannot be reduced below one. Distraction (Basic): Stun target enemy for one turn, remove all buffs from that enemy, and increase their cooldowns by one. It was far more "physical" then that. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Luke "touched" Leia and kissed her. And if you strip back the facile reasons e.g. That's EXACTLY how I wanted Luke to go out. So Luke gave the people what they wanted. Would love that. Luke dies and all that he leaves is a Force apparition that stalls Kylo. I am more and more convinced that Luke's force projection was NOT a massive mind trick or any such thing. It was not even an "illusion" strictly speaking. To me, he was part of the Resistance the moment he talked with Leia back in Crait. Make sure to subscribe for more Star Wars content The Rise of Skywalker visual dictionary gives us an insight into exactly how Luke was able to force project himself from one side of … Star Wars Speculation is a community dedicated to speculative discussion of the Star Wars franchise. A theory we, the staff, have worked out is that the Jedi that disappear upon death, do so because they are willing to give themselves to the Force: Luke when he did the Force projection; Yoda because he was just tired of Luke; Obi-Wan when he saw Luke and The Gang make their way to the Falcon and it was the only way to escape Vader and stll be a presence in Luke’s life. If R2-D2 is present at the start of the encounter, Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) gains +50% speed. Please be reasonable and open-minded. Yeah i don't think he gets resistance tag. Like the hero he was deep down. Rather than fight Kylo Ren in person, Luke projects a facsimile of himself through the Force across countless light-years. His second unique means that he cannot be killed by the enemy as long as one Resistance ally is still alive (because he's a force projection, after all, and Kylo couldn't kill him in the movie). 64. Work together with your fellow speculators in an attempt to build understanding as we collectively try to unlock the secrets of upcoming Star Wars media! His kit is built around this idea, slowing down enemies (with his basic and first special) and aiding the Resistance (with his second and third specials). Why Kylo vs Luke's hologram makes sense. Would he have resistance or Jedi tags? It was not even an "illusion" strictly speaking. Yes, it needs more. After Luke vanishes, the First Order storms the base, but the Resistance has already evacuated. Does this mean that these Force spirits/projections could ultimately engage in a fight if needed? All of this tells me that Luke was ultimately as physical as he wanted to be. But instead, Luke decides to take the same path as at the end of ROTJ and hopes for his nephew's redemption. If the projection was Luke's idealized self, it would have been green. Exile: +50% Evasion, Critical Hit Immunity, Stealth and enemies can’t attack more than once per turn against Luke. If Nihilus' 8 turn CD ability is an unavoidable OHKO, then this should be more impactful too.What you wrote is allright. Final text: Luke gains Exile for 2 turns, which can’t be dispelled or prevented. Related articles If all three are present at the start of the encounter, reduce all cooldowns of Luke Skywalker (Force Projection) by two. 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