trends and tips from the leader in reloading. It is also ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 458 Winchester Magnum. ... Winchester 748 0.366" C.O.L. Winchester StaBALL 6.5 – Temperature sensitivity test Today we have a look at StaBALL 6.5, a new powder from Winchester. Squeeze Mike Well it’s a double based ball powder so it’s going to be more temperature sensitive! Not the best choice in .30-'06, as it doesn't tolerate more than 10% airspace. Ammo Deals: Winchester 748 Smokeless Powder, 4lb (4 Units) $93.96 FREE S&H CODE Ammoland Inc. Posted on December 10, 2020 January 5, 2021 by F Riehl, Editor in Chief /wp-content/uploads/2017/12/winchester-logo-redv2.png, https://winchesterpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/748_1lb.jpg. It is a great all year round powder. What are it's advantages/disadvantages?? Should be a very accurate load. The low flame temperature of 748 extends barrel life versus other similar speed powders. 748 is more temp sensitive than h335. 748 is the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition. My preferred powders where temperature variation … As little as a 10 degree change in temp up or down opened up consistent groups below .5" @100 to over 1.5 inches @ 100 on several outings. H335 also had this bad rap for having problems in extreme temps. What gives? Winchester 748 is a ball powder and the choice for loading 223 Remington cartridges. That's a bummer about the heat sensitive since its starting to warm up. If you are trying to push the ragged edge of pressure hot and cold weather loads will need to be made. In the article “Secrets of the Houston Warehouse” which seems to be extremely influential, the best groups they got with 6ppc was with W748. Is this powder real temperature sensative or is it pretty stable? How temperature sensitive is it?? Winchester 748 is a ball powder and the choice for loading 223 Remington cartridges. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. It is rumored to be temperature sensitive, so that’s one thing to consider/ confirm. Yes Win 748 works very well for heavy weight .223 bullets. I have loaded BL-C(2) in both my .30-06 and my .308 but have not used Winchester 748. I then repeated the test using the same targets.Total test took about 1 hour. I'm having good results with Winchester 748, both in accuracy and velocity consistency. drummer007: Burning rate is similar to 4064, Varget or RL-15, but more temperature sensitive. It’s not like they (Virgil and the shooters at the warehouse) didn’t have n133 or h322. All powders have a tendency to get more 'explosive' in hot weather and especially if they are left in the direct sun or in a hot vehicle... 748 will keep you happy year 'round. The low flame temperature of 748 extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powders. ammunition. I noticed I could load 748 in my 223 & 308 so I bought a pound of it and was wanting some input on the powder. I went to the loading data in the Lyman book and for the 150 grain jacketed XLC bullet in a .30-06 round it shows a starting charge of 48.5 gr for the BL-C(2) which yields a … Cordite, which was the common propellant at the time Rigby designed the case, was extremely sensitive to pressure fluctuations brought on by a change in temperature. The powder I have is winchester 748 and I have read that it can be temperature sensitive. It shoots great, I do most of my hunting in sub zero weather I just don't want the groups opening up or the zero changing. It is ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 308 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. Temperature when I worked up the load was 38 … Where I hunt the temperature could be in the 50's or way below zero. It also shoots H335 good but not as good very close though. Many new powders are … The low-flame temperature extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powder. H4350 goes for $32.99 CDN,/pd while Win 760 is $26.99/pd. I currently use H4350 in my 30.06, with 180 gr bullets, but the price of 760 keeps making me want to try it. ... WW748 can be temperature sensitive, especially in hot weather - watch storage conditions and sun heating. Best used in cases where you can fill them up. Temp difference of upwards of 90 degrees. What's your most accurate .308 / 7.62 x 51 load using Winchester 748? Use WLR or Federal 210 primers ONLY with this stuff! #2325684 - 11/07/12 11:55 PM Winchester 748! This is my second 223 reload test, weather was cold, windy and wet at times. Scoobysmak Replies: 1 Views: 116 1/13/2021 11:38 PM Derek45 223 case trim question. Case volume appears to be the same as Winchester or Federal brass. How about your most accurate Winchester 748 load in the .223 / 5.56 x 45? The Win 760 smokeless ball powder is a spherical powder with a very consistent and reliable burn rate. It shoots great now (60 degrees) can I expect the same groups when it gets cold out. Hornady SX bullets. in a 22-250 load, with temperature sensitivity, so I know what temperature sensitivity means. Loads fired in the cold of winter will be noticeably hotter in the summer months. ... People use newer powders because they often are less temperature sensitive or have additives that lower copper build up like CFE223. And it ran them out at 3450 fps. I stopped using it along with WW760 (H414), & WW785. tayous1. Only problem: thats a case full, and I cannot load them on the Dillon; it spills powder all over. It can be used in a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads including 222 Rem, 30 … Thanks I just loaded up some more I am one grain below maximuim. In common hunting cartridges used to hunt big game within 400 yards or so, such as the .270 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, extreme temperatures don't have enough effect, even on temperature-sensitive gunpowders, to cause you to miss a deer. 3.225" Starting Load 52.0gr. 748 is the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition. To you concern, about groups opening up in cold weather, I have not seen that in this 308 Win load. Winchester 748 was accurate and clean burning in my 16” 6.5 Grendel. I've shot group's with a 223 & 748 in temp's of 12 degree's..to..90 degree's. So is there any load data for Winchester Super handicap for handguns or rifle? The max load for 748 with 140 grain bullets is 43.6 @2900 fps out of a 26" barrel. Is it sensitive? I never shoot it when it is hot I start shooting about now on a frequent basis it doesnt get that hot here this time of year. Temperatures ran from -20, fox hunting, to over 100 in dog towns, w/o any problems. W748 will be just fine for what you are looking for. Winchester 748 It is ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. Only thing is don't work up maximum loads in cool temperatures and shoot the same load in hot summertime. I realize this is not exactly apples to apples, but I have. 748 is very dirty powder, and temperature sensitive. Any other input??? Personally neither of these powders have ever given me a problem. ... Watch out for the 748 it is pretty temperature sensitive and a load that is close to max but showing no real pressure signs on a just above freezing winter match day will be way to hot on hot summer day. A medium speed propellant, 748's lower flame temperature extends barrel life when compared to similar speed powders. In order to be effective in the tropical heat of India and Africa, Rigby over-designed the case size, to keep the pressures low in the extreme heat, for reliable extraction in a dangerous game situation. It provides for a great velocity with the trusted performance of Winchester. I'd stay away from 748 myself, Reloader 15 @39.6 grains is what I would use. all powders are temp sensative, ball powders more so than extruded, all winchester powder is ball powder. Scoobysmak. It is almost ideal for .308 Winchester and .30-30. That group is very nice!! According to the Hodgdon data site, I am 1.5 grains under the max load for this powder/bullet combination as well as .055 longer on OAL. 748 748 is the powder of choice by Winchester and the U.S. military for 5.56mm and 223 Rem. The low-flame temperature extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powder. It is temperature sensitive. hanker71. 7 102 IMR Co IMR 4320 3 Accurate Arms Nitro 100 53 Alliant Pro Reach 103 Winchester 748 4 Alliant e3 54 Hodgdon LONGSHOT 104 Hodgdon BL-C(2) 5 Hodgdon TITEWAD 55 Alliant 410 105 Hodgdon CFE 223 Maintain stability in extremes of temperature and humidity; Winchester's non-corrosive, all-weather primers deliver fast, dependable ignition under any shooting condition. I hear varget is very good but seems to be dried up in my area so I got the 748 and going to give it a try. Im new to the reloadi family. It is very cold right now where I am, and I will probably shoot a lot in summer when it is very hot. I wore out one .223, shooting 28.3 gr. But I don’t see anyone using it. It is somewhat temperature sensitive and maybe just a little more sensitive than some other powders in .223 . The ammo is/was mostly 1919 fodder and performed just fine. As mentioned above don't let your rounds bake in the sun. YMMV RWJ. Its main selling point is that it's supposed to be insensitive to temperature swings, so testing that is the topic of this video. It is said that this reloading powder is ideal for home reloads due to ease of use. I used 5 targets (one per load at 100 yards, 1 five shot group on each target using Hornady 55gr SP/c and Winchester 748 25.6, 25.8, 26.0, 26.2, and 26.4 grains. The low flame temperature extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powder. My results are quite similar between the Hodgdon, Alliant, and IMR powders. They are more sensitive easier to seat. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. 6.5 stabal was designed for the 6.5 creedmoor a lot of Ar competitors use to use 748 … The Winchester 760 has ideal flow characteristics and is not sensitive to temperature. Hello all, I’m new to the forum and a club 6mm ppc shooter. Both will work at low temps and high temps. I tended to reduce my loads almost 10% for this reason. I also tried to keep my ammo … The powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition, 748 is ideal for a wide range of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. Tac is the only ball powder I've used that wasn't very temp sensitive - only for .223-5.56 on a progressive otherwise it's Varget/Benchmark for.223 , and straight varget for .35 rem and 308. I've ran W 748 in the 338/06 with 250 grainers ... but I've found it to be very temperature sensitive. tayous1 Replies: 0 Views: 59 1/14/2021 1:13 AM Talk to me about the sizing die? My question involves Winchester 748 and 6mm ppc. Green = IMR Enduron Powders Red = Winchester Powders 1 Norma R1 51 Alliant Blue Dot 101 HodgdonVARGET 2 Vihta Vuori N310 52 Accurate Arms No. W-748 has not shown me that sharp of rise in pressure, with a rise in temperature, over the temperature ranges I have shot W-748 loads over. I use WIN 748 for 5.56, 7.62, .30-30 and .30-06 with no issues. Keep up-to-date on new products, My Tikka is really shooting great using winchester 748. My testing from 20F to 85F has clearly favored the Hodgdon powders as to temperature stability with my various rifles/loads. It is also ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 458 Winchester Magnum. 748 is cleaner than h335. of W-748 and 50 gr.