Your Dark Field has nothing to do with Vitiate's rituals(those rituals also consumed planets). @frankenmidget: I'd argue he potentially could be. Really? Because it was derived from a RITUAL. and ripped a damn star destroyer from the orbit of a massive gravity well? Regardless, Vitiate never preformed the feat either, both where stated but never done, and at their strongest Nihilus would mop the floor with him, and Nihilus was approaching his strongest before he got massively weakened 3 times on the ravager. But I am enjoying the sh!t-show. If I have to deal with your ramblings you should have enough sense to tag the person you're replying to. Vitiate is, as a certainty, beyond Nihilus, and Revan is comparable to Vitiate, thus being likewise superior to Nihilus. When writers or speakers use appeal to authority, they are claiming that something must be true because it is believed by someone who said to be an "authority" on the subject". And no, shutting of an engine from space isn't even comparable. I don't see why Nihilus doesn't drain, though I wouldn't be surprised if there's evidence Valkorion is immune. While Nihilus can do it at any moment he pleases to anything uncontested and with ease. DRAW (ALL) Jedi to one planet, and distract them with a large number of Sith on the surface. @zapan871: The Book of the Sith states when you're using a Death Field, it will try to consume the user as well. He was a Dark Lord of the Sith who reconstituted the Sith Empire after the Great Hyperspace War and went on to rule it for more than a millennium. As for his character I'd thought it would be obvious even to the most devoted fans of that MMO... that the entire story and his character is inconsistent. Hands down the greatest Sith of all time, Darth Vitiate was one of the galaxies most feared and dangerous threats. I mean all the stocks. @ysmir: Dude, that quote you took was from a fucking wiki lol. The Sith just need to move their select heavy hitters such as Palpatine (Dark Empire), Darth Nihilus (KoTOR II), Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor), and The Dread Masters, to a spaceborne platform above the planet, and then watch the show. Darth Nihilus VS Valkorion/Lord Vitiate deactivated-5be183e26f3e9. Now at this point I grow tired from addressing the same nonsensical bullshit I did literally a week ago. I hope you are also joking, Nihilus literally with a thought can destroy a planet, and this was also pre prime, in fact Nihilus never reached his prime. via wikia.nocookie.net. I've got some news for you pal, Nihilus is weak as hell compared to Vitiate. 3 Can Beat: Darth Malak. How are those not combat applicable or have you not played the actual Kotor games LOL. Als einer von wenigen überlebte er schwer verletzt die Kriege und widmete sich daraufhin dem Studium der Dunklen Seite. Acting as if Vitiate being stronger or weaker here makes a difference is false. Vitiate's planet-wide Death field didn't consume him, so he's confirmed to know Drain resistance to a planet-wide level. 0. Vitiate can also overwhelm several Jedi Knights and Masters with Force Storm and energy attacks, a feat solidly beyond Nihilus' abilities, and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes. Please tell me how they are comparable by the way, this unchained dude (How the fuck did yall play swotor and learn the lore?). REFERS TO ZIOST. And another reason; because she was a fickin' Celestial. Also I can argue that Nihilus could destroy planets with his force crushing abilities alone (implied by Tobin and some guides) but I won't for now, because lifting the ravager from a gravity well which was so powerful as to warp space to a notable degree, and could crush ships who were moving away at escape velocity in an instant, Nihilus counteracted that in a massively lesser form than what we see in game. I'm not going to be online for a week due to studies and probably won't get back to this. LMAO. 0 ... And Darth Nihilus doesn't have a physical form anymore. Except show the galaxy how incompetent he is and the writers that wrote him. "He did it not with weapon or machines" Roughly was the statement by her if you ask her about her master and planet to the point where you get this dialogue. If he goes for drain, Valkorion resists, he becomes exhausted and stomped. Also, wtf is "multi ton million tk"? Both Nihilus and Vitiate were extremely powerful Sith lords who both were responsible for many deaths. That and I find it hard to believe that [player character] Nox needs 'help' to cast torrents of force lightning to annihilate 'special snowflake and plot bad armour' Arcann. You on the other hand are unironically this serious about fictional characters. Follow 1228. Rape is a word, grow up. ", ―Power Beyond Belief: Using Ultra-Powerful Sith Lords in Saga Edition. >"and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes." @ysmir: Yeah, we're done here. Darth Nihilus benefited much from the tutelage of Darth Traya nevertheless but his physiology began to suffer and crumble due to heavy application(s) of Force Drain in his exploits. @frankenmidget: @wollfmyth209: He is canonically immune to planet-level drain. @breakofdawn: Sorry you loons are so similar it's hard to tell your ignorance apart. Well, that changes everything doesn't it! Vitiate literally only can do shit via rituals LOL, ELABORATE. @ysmir: OOU Source>IU Source. Apart from Vitiate and Sidious only "wounds in the force" can combat Nihilus (like the Jedi Exile). Last word being the key word. Basic common sense appears to allude you, however, so I understand why this might be a difficult concept for you to grasp. He wins. Darth Nihilus developed a strange hunger for force energy after surviving the mass shadow... For me the Sith Emperor Lord Vitiate is the strongest and most powerful Sith I've come across in the Starwars universe. Don't make that claim. So your argument is that Nihilus is a better written character? That's why it was major plot point that the Exile was wound in the force (similar to Nihilus because they where both at Malachor V) disconnected to it. @arkhamasylum3: "Amazingly dark and devastating powers are the purview of some of the greatest Sith Lords of the Knights of the Old Republic era. @wollfmyth209: @azronger: Do you think he knows the technique to resist Force Drain? And when Vitiate unleashed that ritual on Ziost he didn't even have a body. Why am I not surprised? By GOD, you are the dumbest miscreant in this thread atm. Nihilus telekinetically ripping a 1200 meter centurion-class battlecruiser out of a gravity well is one of the greatest telekinetic feats in the SW mythos. RITUALS. By GOD, you are the dumbest miscreant in this thread atm. What's the statement proving Nihilus grew more powerful by draining planets? Have a nice day in Kindergarten. Feel lucky I even addressed you proper? Also none of those names mean a single thing at all, throwing out names won't help you or anyone elses arguments. Where was this stated in the rules? Anyways, it probably should let him win this battle. and Nihilus himself was capable of a better feat while extremely weakened as well. For those of you who have read Tales of the Jedi, Sever Force is a light-sided power, not a dark-sided one as Force Drain is. It's becoming even more apparent due to the fact that Inquisitor seems to have forgotten 'Force walk' that alone should have silence Valk. Do you think I'm giving Vaylin and the Outlander too much credit, or not enough? The guy would lose badly to people way way weaker than Vitiate. Anyways, I'll address the actual proper argumentative person soon as I as well have studies and finals soon. Look at most of my debates, I usually act like this. Valkorion 10/10. But both have been resisted before. @ysmir: I am not getting banned, less he gets banned for the same LOL. A powerful Jedi can block a Force-user's access to the Force, preventing them from accessing Force skills or Force feats. @banthabot: I'm interested in hearing why you think that. Enjoy your ban pal. @azronger: Planetary means it literally kills an entire planet(like, destroying it), killing all life on a planet is more of a multi-continental range thing, tbh. He bombarded them then drained them after (ie: he didn't use machines to drain them). Nihilus draaaaaainz! I'll take your immediate concession for Ad hominem appeal to probability and ad nuasum. It is difficult. Also any statements or instances of Vitiate draining a planet without a ritual? @ysmir: I'm not referring to Nathema lol, that was centuries before Vitiate's prime. 5 Darth Nihilus. So it's relevant when it's Nihilus but not relevant when it's Vitiate. It be almost amusing to see Valk try and mind game his way out of that one. Oh wait, never mind that would imply you addressed me properly, you didn't. Well someone's getting banned. What word firstly, and secondly banned words? I honestly have no idea why are you so impressed with Nihilus. Who shall be the victor? Yeah, he drained Ziost in the span of minutes, affecting the planet's outer core and destroying all life on it, without a ritual (As explicitly noted by the codex). In this Star Wars Versus, we are pitting Darth Revan up against Darth Nihilus. Being weakened is completely irrelevant when regarding someones ability to preform a ritual, as it pertains to their knowledge, not their power. Forgive me if I'm not impressed. Peace chimp. Vitiate was gonna destroy the galaxy with the ritual? Nihilus for the stomp because he is a Wound in the Force; and because his Hunger is instantly. This whole thread has been a dick measuring contest lol, even if Vitiate had more range on his powers to drain the galaxy, it wouldn't work on Nihilus as he is a wound in the force. one-shotting a character who overpowered the above character and virtually ragdolling him. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing. Darth Nihilus was proficient in the use of both Dark Healing and Drain Force applications (Knights of the Old Republic: Campaign Guide). I notice several contradictions in your argument btw. Regardless it's not relevant to this battle given Nihilus never reached that level of power. But being all omnipotent being that everyone believes because KOTFE said so. Raven's closest friend and fiercest enemy at different times of his path, … Get lost LMFAO. Yup, desecrating Ziost while in his weakened spirit form in the span of minutes without a ritual definitely means he can't drain planets without rituals. The aforementioned revelation ALIGN with that of Mr. Chris Avellone that Revan was superior to Darth Traya in understanding the aspects of Drain Force. Ok it was stated he would destroy the galaxy with his presence at his strongest. @zapan871: @amethystgravity: @frankenmidget: It is sustained by your will, but it will try to consume you as well. Are you stupid? And although Traya isn't all powerful and all knowing, she still has a greater understanding of the technique when she explains to the Exile (not using that bastardised name Meetra from that horrible book, and I still can't believe Drew wrote that) that it is not something you can block. Sad. Seeing as the servers have crashed, I decided I may as well roll out Round 5. Your haven't addressed shit, I grow tired from your never ending stupidity. All he cared about was consumption of life, and everyone knew this. That argument is trash and isn't substantiated in any medium. Regardless of the disparity present between them, Revan is the better of the two, and that’s my point. He is terribly written sue and comes back only because BW needs a cliche bad guy to fight for as long as EA wants to milk out more monthly 10-15min chapters. 10/10 debating skills, mate. Darth Nihilus, also known as the Lord of Hunger, is an antagonist in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II – The Sith Lords. First off you haven't provided any proof Nihilus can destroy a planet with a thought and secondly Vitiate being pre-prime is relevant because you were using that as a direct comparison as to why Nihilus wins. Check it. My scaling so far goes Valkorion >/= Sidious = Yoda > Mace (very small gap) >/= KF Vader (the gap is pretty small) > Outlander/unchained Vaylin > Revan, but I don't have it set in stone. 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